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by r3demon 4931 days ago
Will they give my genotype information to FBI or CIA? Will they pay damages if information gets stolen? This is not some passwords or account numbers, this is data about real world which can't be changed.
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They will give the information as required by law, such as court order. So yes they will when they are ordered to.

Given the history of the NSA/CIA and so on, they probably will try to harvest all available genetic data they can to help identify people they are interested in the future. Genetic information without an identity can be matched after the fact, probably by more extensive biometric border checkpoints in the next few decades.

See the 'Information Disclosure Required By Law' section: https://www.23andme.com/legal/privacy/

Why not buy a gift credit card, and not use your actual identity to purchase the registration? They don't appear to require any rigorous proof of identity.
It would be trivial to figure out who you really are once enough relatives sign up.
The point is to avoid casual easy association via a name/address lookup, not defend against in-depth analysis from entities that know everyone in real life and in the database.

Plus, you could be an unmentioned adopted-out person, which would look identical, so they couldn't prove it was you without further examination.

Better: impersonate a well-known trial attorney
It's sort of sudo anonymized. I purchased my test in 2010. The account is tied to my email address for login. I ordered the test under just my first name to my office at the time. I also purchased a test for a friend. Other then an email address, that test isn't tied to him in any other way. So while its not impossible to tie back to someone, it's not a perfect 1:1 relationship.
That's your DNA, by definition it is not anonymized, it defines you about as good as possible. You could infer all kinds of stuff about you from your DNA. 33 bits... male, brown eyes, family member in the 3rd degree of 'x', family member to the 4 th degree of 'y' and so on.
With the caveat that you can not predict these phenotypes with 100%:

for example, in humans it's relatively easy to predict eye colour with about 99% certainty (but only if the colour is identified as "brown", "blue", "green" - nothing complicated!), however, skin colour is harder to predict (72% correct in this paper) - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187249731...

People always assume that you can just look at the genes and immediately perfectly predict what's going on with the person in question, but a) people forget about gene/environment interaction (think about human height, only about 5% predictable using SNPs) and b) our science is simply not so far, and especially SNPs (right now the main product of 23andMe) don't predict as much as people would like them to.

Knowing a little bit about the culture of the company, I hope that they will be transparent about any laws they have to comply with, a la Google Transparency report: http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/government...

To my knowledge, this has not come up yet, but I'm sure it will one day.

I had thought HN was mostly free of that type of absurd Reddit paranoia.

The CIA could not care less about your genotype.