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by mft_ 2 days ago
If I rephrase your earlier post, and based on the AMD post:

If you take four Framework Desktop 128 GB Strix Halo motherboards at a previous low and currently-unattainable price, and ignore the cost of storage, power, networking, and cases, and then take an older model that's just about competitive with Opus 4.5, and then you quantise that model down to Q2_K_XL and ignore the performance degradation below Opus 4.5 this will cause, and then you compare the cost of this with the highest tier of Claude subscription that includes much newer models which are far more able than your Opus 4.5 benchmark, then you might have some sort of break-even inside a year.

Yes, there's a new AMD hardware generation coming, but it's going to be as heinously expensive as the current one has become, and it's still got relatively low memory bandwidth. Yes, there are already newer models than Kimi 2.5, but with the limitations of this cluster (e.g. still needing heavily quantised models to be feasible) you'll get incremental improvements at best.

I'm keen to be supportive and bullish about open/home models, but I worry that this is such a stretch, and the two options in your comparison are so incomparable, you'll turn far more people off than you convince.