[inigyou]

Has that been proven?

[nozzlegear]

There are some animals that come close to having what we'd call gender roles: bonobos, some other primates (not all), and a bird called a ruff. But as far as we can tell, those animals don't have an internal "I am X gender" self concept.

(Interesting note: bonobos are very fluid and change their gender roles depending on the situation and context.)

[inigyou]

We can't talk to them, so we don't know how they feel, so of course they don't have any known internal feelings.

If you observed humans from a distance in their natural habitat for a while you probably also wouldn't find any gender.

[nozzlegear]

I'm not sure what you're getting at here, you seem to be repeating my point that humans are the only animals we know of with genders. Am I misunderstanding?

[inigyou]

Direct quote:

> Humans are the only mammals with genders at all.

[nozzlegear]

I'm still not following lol