[nestorD]

> For example there is less joy to be had in learning a programming language in 2026 than there was in 2016, because there is less utility in it now.

I... disagree. The joy I get from learning a programming language does not come from knowing that it is useful. Rather, it comes from engaging with its abstractions and figuring out the associated mental puzzles.

On a related note, I recently realized that I am barely writing code these days (instead I am reviewing a lot of LLM-written code and nudging it in the right direction) which will make doing the advent of code (which I usually use to play with a language I have never used) without any LLM help even more enjoyable: it will be both the fun of figuring out those puzzles in a new language, and stretching my code-writing muscles.

[vouaobrasil]

> I... disagree. The joy I get from learning a programming language does not come from knowing that it is useful. Rather, it comes from engaging with its abstractions and figuring out the associated mental puzzles.

Fact is though, a LOT of people derive joy from showing their creations to other people and others finding utility or awe in it because they created it with their hands. The fact that a few of us can sidestep that does not mean it's a general phenomenon.