[hmry]

It's annoying how many comment sections online are now just Rust vs Fil-C / Zig flamewars, and the creators of those languages are deliberately fanning the flames.

I also feel there's a second dimension to the politics, where Rust is the "woke" language and C / Zig / Odin are now the "anti-woke" languages. At least, going by their most vocal online communities.

I'm sure offline there's still engineering decisions being made (I hope).

[estebank]

Could you point me at the members of the Rust project doing so? I'd want to have a word with them (I'm a member of t-compiler).

[slopinthebag]

They aren't. It's some random rust users vs the leader of the Zig project, leader of the Fil-c project, the head of community at Zig, etc. But they like to pretend there is an equivalence on the Rust side.

[hmry]

Sorry for not being clear, I meant the creators of Fil-C and Zig (since those are the ones mentioned in the article)

[hitekker]

IIRC, ralfj was insinuating that Java was memory unsafe and arguing about it with experts on HN not too long ago. But I think he was coming off hot from the T-spec debacle so I understand it as him wanting to blow off steam.

The most toxic Rust leaders exited from the project a few years back, though some are flaming more freely than ever, e.g., Go barely deserves to exist, “SQlite is a terrible example” etc

[hitekker]

Andrew Kelley is a strong advocate for the LGBTQ and has railed against ICE in Minnesota.

I’ve only heard the woke/anti woke framing from Lunduke on the right, and a few Rust fanatics on the left. Both parties and their sympathizers want to fit the Holy Language war into the Culture war™