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by applicative 7 days ago
Everyone just keeps assuming, as if it were the law of gravity, that China will continue in perpetuity to deliver the weights of its 'frontier' models to Hugging Face. Its Mythos moment is a few months away and there is plenty of reporting suggesting their response will be similar, which is anyway obvious.

It baffles me that anyone can seriously believe that China is going to put its Mythos successor on Hugging Face and let us all strip the guardrails etc.

Things just didn't turn out the way OpenAI and Anthropic thought; nor did they turn out the way China thought.

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They very well might. Read up on the infrastructure projects China has provifed to Africa in exchange for oil refineries and drilling sites across the continent: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/China-Is-Rapidly-Expan.... Roads, schools and more.
The headline from 7 years ago has not borne out; Africa is a minor supplier.

The point is quite different: that everyone is harmed by advanced open weight agentic models even as we are benefited by them. This holds of African states as of any other. Many of them, by the way, are under attack from well-funded moderately insane groups like JNIM. Also by the way, groups like this are famously really good at recruiting the specific psychical type of the engineer.

It is not possible that releasing open weights will continue forever, or probably even to the end of the year.

> there is plenty of reporting suggesting their response will be similar

There is? Xi Jinping himself openly talked very recently about China's commitment to open weights models.

Xi Jinping realizes that open weight models accelerate open development.

There is more players in China than in the US. If everyone keeps learning off each other, eventually one of the China labs will overtake the US, but AI models aren't static (anything but), and the US will leap frog in a weeks time. Therefore the constant need for open weights remains.