[abixb]

So the rumors were right, Opus 5 was indeed being polished up for release. Huge improvements in GDPval-AA v2 too -- great for some of the knowledge work-based agentic workloads I run.

Also glad they still kepy Fable 5 on "credits only" access. I think we're going to start seeing model providers gate top-of-the-line models behind pay-as-you-go API rates/credits while subsidizing other models on monthly subscriptions.

[ciefa]

Fable 5 is included for 50% of the limits in Max. Only below Max one has to use credits.

[seebeen]

Indeed

[jpk2f2]

It's still available on at least some subs, they emailed me recently notifying me that I still have access.

[saratogacx]

My understanding is that you get $20 in api credits each month and a one time $100 until mid September. So you can still use the model with a subscription but you aren't getting any kind of discount.

I burned through $45 in 3 prompts to fix some bugs in my code (Some kind of tricky to isolate). That thing burns through cash so fast I don't see myself using it outside of maybe building execution plans for other systems

[tackta]

I am on the pro plan and got the $100 credit.

I have moved on from Fable anyway so just going to view this next 6 weeks as I have a massive amount of Opus 5 to use.

I had a hard time finding anything that would let Fable express its increased intelligence. The few conversations I had this afternoon with Opus 5 were pretty impressed.

If Opus stays one click back from the frontier model, I will remain a happy customer.

[efdee]

On Max it is just included in your subscription.

[mcv]

I think I saw that Max and Enterprise keep access, but Pro has to use credits, but I think I got $85 in credits.

[novlrdotcom]

Does anyone know if Claude Code is on Opus 5 yet? That'd be amazing

[setsewerd]

I was using it on Cowork yesterday, so I would imagine so. It arrived before I updated but the message says it will work better after updating the app.

[seanhunter]

When I updated this morning I got claude code v2.1.217. It doesn't have opus 5 listed under /models (opus 4.8 is the latest).

[Wowfunhappy]

Fable 5 is still included in Max subscriptions!

[collabs]

Max is an individual subscription though and does not come with the guarantees that team or enterprise do?

[ValentineC]

Team Premium has Fable 5 too.

[bakies]

Doesn't team bill API rates?

[einsteinx2]

No that’s enterprise accounts. Team accounts are similar to regular Pro and 5x Max accounts in both price and features.

[ValentineC]

Team is 1.25x the price of personal accounts, but supposedly also gives 1.25x more usage.

[eterm]

And Teams Premium was previously needed for any claude-code at all.

[eterm]

I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted, in November last year, the regular teams tier did not let you use claude code, premium was required.

They've changed it since, but that's why I said "previously".

[d4rkp4ttern]

what guarantees are these? You mean data retention, use for training etc?

[collabs]

Yes, that's my understanding at least