[atherton94027]

Never understood why hetzner gets brought up so positively here when there are dozens of EU competitors who are just as good and don't run 7 year old discounted servers

[swiftcoder]

> don't run 7 year old discounted servers

That's a pretty big part of why, honestly. How many of us are running server workloads that actually need the price/performance tradeoff of cutting edge server hardware?

[atherton94027]

We're not even talking cutting edge. If you browse hetzner's auction page you can see they're renting machines with almost decade old CPUs like the Xeon W-2145 or i7 6700. That's just a lot of old hardware..

[yjftsjthsd-h]

Well. Yeah. The auction page is the leftovers; if you want current stuff then you're in the wrong spot on their site

[idiotsecant]

So? If it's cheaper and gets the job done who cares?

[atherton94027]

I mean if you run serious stuff on a non-ECC CPU from 2015, you'll probably have a bad time.

They're great for hobbyists but people on here keep bringing them up as the flagbearer of euro hosting

[swiftcoder]

I have several production services running right now on AWS t2 instances, which were released in 2016. For a service that isn't performance-critical, it's perfectly fine (and a significant cost savings) to run on decade-old hardware.

ECC vs non-ECC is also pretty irrelevant on a box with < 64GB of memory

[atherton94027]

A t2 instance is virtualized, AWS keeps its servers for 5 years (see their 10k https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/0001... ), so your t2 does get moved around regularly to newer servers.

And no, ECC is relevant with less than 64 gigs of ram, there's a reason it's been a standard on servers since the 90s

[Yiin]

serious stuff like what? majority of people don't work on scale you probably are thinking about.

[MathiasPius]

Because nobody ever mentions them by name, leaving all of us in the dark.

[atherton94027]

Upcloud, Scaleway, Clever cloud, etc.

[ffsm8]

These are all solid choices, but significantly less performance/€

Understandably too, because hetzner is running things on consumer hardware vs the enterprise hardware the others use