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What's the situation with Deno these days? I care about having a fast/secure/modern JS environment and I've been burned by node.js in the past.

I'm not that optimistic for Bun with all the recent churn/slopcoding but the pitch of "use this one good TS tool for everything" is appealing.

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Deno doesn't seem to have as much momentum ever since Bun showed up, and there is concern about the status of the company. I doubt anyone wants to rely on Deno at this time.

Node.js has come a long way, and its support for TS is fairly good these days. Of course it's not an "all-in-one" experience, but I really don't know if it matters. Setting up a bundler is easier than ever, and for complex/niche use cases, you'll likely need webpack instead of whatever comes with Bun. Let alone all the other options that take care of the entire build toolchain.

Choosing a runtime just for the tools it brings isn't as good a decision it seems.