[addedGone]

Codeberg is also not being considered anymore since they are censoring legitimate projects, crazy honestly, people would have thought that they would be neutral but it's the opposite of neutral, it's way worse than Corporations.

Also, in 1 year tops, no dev will manually code anymore, forcing users to code manually is absurd.

[ethin]

This is a pretty great strawman of what their actual terms of service and blog post says. You might want to read both quite thoroughly.

[addedGone]

It isn't, I'm literally not allowed to host a project on it, knowing obviously it's 100% "LLM-made" nowadays, no modern softwares can be hosted on it, Bun can't be hosted on it (100% "AI" now), you don't find it ridiculous? The world is changing, they don't want to acknowledge it.

The cryptocurrency related projects ban is also insane knowing how much it has contributed to having greater crypto librairies, including all the newer zK stuff.

The entire planet is migrating towards AI coding, and Codeberg is going the opposite way, it's a sure way to die, let's speak about it in 2028 where I'm ready to bet that less than 0.1% of all software dev will be manually editing files.

To me, it seems that they can't manage their infrastructure properly cost wise and decide instead to punish the users for it.

[ethin]

No, I don't find it ridiculous:

1. You are not entitled to a website hosting your content. A website refusing to host you is not censorship in any form whatsoever.

2. I'm pretty positive they did this because of infrastructure reasons as a secondary reason to their mission. LLMs mean people can just pump out projects at light speed, and that costs money to both host and do things with on CI/CD. If you want that potentially to be lifted in the future, pay them so they are able to have that infrastructure.

[inigyou]

Just ask your AI to set up a website called Vibeberg for AI projects only. It should be really simple.

[addedGone]

It has nothing to do with "vibe coding" in the sense you imply, you see the ARC-AGI, DeepSWE benchmarks and so-on, assume that will be 99.9% soon when we have Opus 9 which will be soon, which means in practice that most SWE are beaten by top models, which means that letting humans code will be more dangerous (and inferior) than letting models code, we are already close to that which is why we must change the way we work now, not the moment it comes.

It's already dangerous today to not review codebases by top models, how do you think that will be in 2028?

And yes, a simple combination of top models today in adversarial+loops... and only 20 subscriptions will do much better than Codeberg ($100K monthly token equivalent).

But sure, Codeberg can remain alive for all the legacy stuff, but imo the mentality is quite backward.

[ethin]

This comment is full of both a lot of hyperbole and theoretical outcomes that Idk even where to begin. There for one is no guarantee that Anthropic will remain around long enough for them to get to Opus 9 let alone a better model for one. The same could be said for OAI.

And again, what is the problem with a platform wanting to not be flooded with a bunch of low-quality code that gets abandoned after it's done what the creator wanted it to do? I keep seeing this claim of these models being better than "most" developers but have yet to see any actual statistics cited to back up this claim which makes me think it's all just vibes.

[addedGone]

It's not low-quality code, that's the thing, yes, you can do trash, like most humans do, but it can also output better code, consistency... than most humans today, what will it be next year?

Anthropic isn't going away, even if they do, a lot will compete anyway, AI in a general sense will reach the point where our jobs as dev will be to prompt all day long and that's it. It's almost sure that we will keep having better models and tooling, right now every single month it's getting better and better, and on some aspects not just linearly.

the moment GPT-3.5 dropped, it was already not hard to picture literally what we do today, the "hmm what if THIS suddenly is actually accurate", and tomorrow, it will be all the pain points we currently have that are solved.

Genuinely, see the Bun porting? Imagine that is with a very "weak" model, weak tooling, weak hardware, now imagine that tomorrow, it will port it 50x faster, more performant, better consistency, docs, and virtually zero bugs: not hard to picture at all, it's what it will be imo in 1 year, 2 tops just if the current pace continue, that's not even accounting for the thousand of new companies coming, can we really say it's vibe trash when it outperforms humans?

Think of what's slowing you down today and why you aren't already a Bot typing non-stop and imagine those solved, now what?

I must add Kimi K3 as another example, nothing "wahou" with it in the sense that it was already a sure thing, it's so great to see it coming already, but it's also sure we will have Mythos 10 level open-source, open-weight in a few years, it won't be surprising I mean, it's just logical. We will also have Marvel-level movies done with a prompt.

PS: sorry it's all over the place and out of touch with the initial Codeberg thing

[inigyou]

Just start up Vibeberg and forget about Codeberg entirely. It's obsolete, an ancient relic. Vibe ahead!

[addedGone]

We've already forgotten about Codeberg since the announcement, done, vibed :)