[eigenspace]

None of them have something even close to the memory bandwidth or integrated GPU performance of the Ryzen AI Max processors.

They want a Apple M_ Max like machine.

[artisinal]

Why not put a big fat Ryzen 9 chip in it? Most people use their computer for browsing the web, playing some games, doing some spreadsheets. A standard CPU would have been more than powerful enough for that and the Desktop would be more repairable.

[eigenspace]

There's a million machines that are just as upgradeable as anything Framework could make if you just want a big fat Ryzen 9.