[wongarsu]

I don't believe I understand your argument? Are you claiming a moral, legal or practical difference? Or are you saying that Anthropic spending resources on training an LLM is somehow different from an author spending resources on writing a book?

In any case, I doubt Kimi was trained without "stealing" the same data. Assembling all of your training data from Claude responses seems infeasible. It's much more likely that Kimi's base model was trained similarly to any other base model, with terabytes of data from all imaginable sources. Then the model was fine-tuned with "high-quality" data, followed by reinforcement learning. Throwing in lots of chat transcripts from other chatbots into the "high-quality" dataset would be expected, and is done to some degree by everyone, but maybe a lot more for Kimi. And likely they did a lot of reinforcement learning against the Claude API

The model would exist without Claude, it just wouldn't be nearly as coherent or smart