Developers who use LLMs: You are telling me that you have moral/ethical/practical issues with how I work but I'm going to ignore what you say to justify how I'm not at fault.
The moral/ethical high ground argument just spirals.
Oh you drive a car? You should justify that to me.
Oh you bought any piece of clothing, tech, etc where it was made in countries with cheap labor and bad labor laws? You should justify that to me.
Oh you use electricity? Idk some of that is made via non-renewable resources.
Oh you eat meat? So much animal suffering and land is being wasted.
I get using an LLM has some problems. But I find it ironic that for most people, they didn't have a problem with any of this until it started to affect their job and their expertise.. And their paycheck.
Where was your outcry for anything else? Or is it just performative?
I sure hope you are also only using products and services derived from union labor.
This is about the kind of code allowed in a place to store code. Your comparisons are obviously nonsensical in relation to the actual topic at hand. If you're a part of the transit community, they have plenty to say about car dependence and its ethics. If you're a part of the fashion community, they have loads to say on fast fashion and its ethics. The list goes on and on. For all them it seems totally reasonable for them to have their own ethical lines within their relevant spaces and communities. But it should be pretty obvious that none them have anything at all to do with Codeberg, or the general discussion of ethics at hand here. I don't see how you have any ability to claim what causes are issues someone cares about or prioritize based on them raising an issue relevant to the actual subject matter.
You're missing the point. I was only saying those things to show that arguing ethics and morals is bad because it's a never-ending self-imploding purity spiral. I am not trying to argue those views, nor am I refuting some argument because the replier is trying to claim some moral high ground.
If someone hangs a 'no cars' sign at the entrance to their private nature path you're not going to think they're saying 'You are not traveling according to the exact rules I have made up in my head about how one should travel, so I'm going to build a wall and hate you'
No, they don't want cars on their path, because cars would be harmful to the environment they're trying to foster.
I'm not asking you to justify your choices. What I'm saying is that you sound like you're deliberately ignoring what other people think as a precondition to justify your choices to yourself.
Oh you drive a car? You should justify that to me.
Oh you bought any piece of clothing, tech, etc where it was made in countries with cheap labor and bad labor laws? You should justify that to me.
Oh you use electricity? Idk some of that is made via non-renewable resources.
Oh you eat meat? So much animal suffering and land is being wasted.
I get using an LLM has some problems. But I find it ironic that for most people, they didn't have a problem with any of this until it started to affect their job and their expertise.. And their paycheck.
Where was your outcry for anything else? Or is it just performative?
I sure hope you are also only using products and services derived from union labor.