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by axegon_ 6 days ago
They are relying on the same tactics Apple and Tesla used - loyal, fanatical fanbase drowning every legitimate criticism. Their fanatical fanbase is doing the real heavy lifting, not some joint-statement: "I haven't written any code in a year man, this is so good", "you are just a denier that will be irrelevant in 2 months", "you are not knowledgeable on the subject of ai", "you are just a hater" list goes on, I've heard it all.

As I said a day or two ago, the open weights Chinese models may be good (hey might be better even) but let's not fool ourselves - the only reason the Chinese are pushing for open weights is because they were not the first people at the party and that's the only way they can fight against openai and anthropic. They are just as much of an enemy as both openai and anthropic - hopefully enough people realize that without supporting either. Just sit back and let them eat each-other. That's the only sensible thing to do.
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disgruntledphd2 5 days ago
> They are relying on the same tactics Apple and Tesla used - loyal, fanatical fanbase drowning every legitimate criticism.

I think that's fair. Interestingly enough, I now work for a company with Cursor, which makes it much easier to swap out models. I tried Claude Opus, GPT Sol and Grok for a review and planning task.

Even though I've been a Claude stan since like 2023, I was really, really impressed with GPT. It called out the over-complexity in the proposal really well, and gave recommendations that I preferred. Grok & Claude were mostly equivalent, which was interesting to me.

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nunez 6 days ago
Interestingly, Apple will Sherlock the pants off of OpenAI and Anthropic once they release Siri+. At least for B2C.
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sph 6 days ago
I keep seeing people using Sherlock as a verb and I fear I am not hanging around in the same Twitter circles.
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rubslopes 6 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(software)#Sherlock_a...
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bigyabai 6 days ago
They'll Sherlock part of it, but I don't think Apple's subscription will be seen as a threat to Codex or Claude Code.

The current B2C market is mostly comprised of power users, which will probably not be substantially displaced with a Siri update.

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echelon 6 days ago
They have no fanbase anymore. They poisoned all of that goodwill.

RIP Anthropic "good guys" January 2021 - January 2026.

Earlier this year they limited how you could use your subscription. It's been rapidly downhill since then.

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dd8601fn 6 days ago
I see little evidence of business-oriented cult followings, here.

Certainly people have preferred tools. And if people argued with you about the merits of llms, that’s obviously a different thing.

I suspect if a third provider blew the two out of the water tomorrow with an amazing model, people would want to try it right away. Assuming the company wasn’t grinding up kittens to produce it, or something equally noxious.

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