Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by reuven 4935 days ago
Israel, as a country, is nothing like apartheid, and it's a shame that you use that term. Arabs can and do freely participate in all parts of Israeli life, including membership and elected officials in just about every mainstream political party. It's acknowledged that more needs to be done to bring Arab income and educational levels up to those of Jewish Israelis, and there are far too many places in which Arabs officially and unofficially face discrimination. But there's a world of difference between discrimination and apartheid.

An increasingly vocal slice of economists, investors, and entrepreneurs are saying that helping Arab citizens to found high-tech companies would be good for the country, good (obviously) for those individuals, and might help to bridge the divide between Israel and the Arab world.

The situation is sadly different in the territories, which I believe is a moral and legal albatross around Israel's neck, and one which we need to resolve as quickly as possible -- preferably by pulling out most settlements and recognizing a Palestinian state.

As for Palestinians returning to their ancestral homes, I'm afraid that as with countless wars over the centuries, that will not happen for the overwhelming majority of them. The alternative would lead to an unlimited civil war, one which would have dire consequences for the entire public. I feel bad for people who lost their homes, and believe that they should be compensated. But no Israeli government, left or right, will agree for such a thing to happen, and I happen to believe that it's counterproductive for the welfare of Palestinians to focus on that, rather than building a free, democratic, and open Palestine -- something which has yet to occur, I'm afraid.

Finally, I'm not sure why you keep referring to me as a settler. I'm an immigrant, a resident, a citizen, and all sorts of other things. But I bought my home in a city within Israel proper, within the Green Line, despite all sorts of financial encouragement that the government gave me to go over the Green Line. If you want to make personal claims and accusations, I ask that you do so based on facts, rather than slogans.

1 comments

You were not born in the land called Israel/Palestine, you were able to move there because of a supremacist regime that won't give the same rights to the natives just because of their race/creed/color. You US-born Jew have more rights than Jaffa-born Palestinian Christians or Isdud-born Muslims who were kicked out before Isdud was renamed to Ashdod yet you ask me why I call you a settler.

Mizrahim / Eastern Jews and Black African Jews were also treated as Guinea Pigs by the European Jews; they gave the children thousands of times more powerful x-rays than allowed amount, several died instantly, many have died of cancer.

Are you capable of rational thought? Are you talking about the settler state Israel which doesn't give equal rights to the natives yet allows Americans and Russians to move there based on their mother's religion or some other fictional country? A regime which has a separate set of laws for two groups based on their race, color or creed is referred to as an apartheid regime.

59% of Israelis approve of the term apartheid and support the discriminatory policies of their country:

http://972mag.com/poll-israelis-support-discrimination-again...

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/10/20121027145...