[hogwasher]

I'd rather companies actually care (or even just care about seeming to care) about ethics, rather than only caring what makes the line go up the fastest, yes.

A company that treats ethics as optional, or that thinks "it's a business" excuses every imaginable sin, is one that will happily screw you and me over too.

Also, in the long term, making climate change worse is a catastrophically bad decision for absolutely everybody. Companies just have to look past the ends of their own noses to see the immediate, quick payout of not giving a fuck about it is like accepting payment to dig their own graves.

Also, this is probably, in part, about all the cryto scams everywhere. Companies don't like legal trouble.

Anyway, anybody who's sane backs up their source code. If a company burns you, and it's not a monopoly, you leave it. It's not a problem.

[bko]

I'd rather companies just provide me a service at a reasonable price. I don't need a corporation imposing it's ethics on me.

[inigyou]

Well this is a charity providing services for free. If you want to be provided a service for a price, go elsewhere.

[tarpitt]

That money had to have come from somewhere, whether it was taxpayers or individuals. What if I donated? Is it cool to just roll over and allow political groups to hijack a previously neutral service?

Also there are other projects hosted there, and network effects involved.

[inigyou]

Probably if you become a member you'll have more ability to discuss with the other members and the board and the operators, yes.

Clearly they are setting limits on a case-by-case basis where needed. If something like GNOME was on Codeberg, they'd happily raise the storage quota for them. So they can also exempt you from the AI code rule if you have a really good reason, which you don't.

They have noted somewhere (it's linked in this thread) that most vibe-coders act like they're big and valuable software projects (like GNOME), and use commensurate resources, even though they aren't. This is what they want to block. If you were actually GNOME and you were vibe-coding, they'd probably let you.

[inigyou]

that note I just referenced is here: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

[Timon3]

This step perfectly aligns with the political direction Codeberg had from the very start. Who are you to now come in and demand they change to fit your political stance?

This isn't very cool of you.

[1shooner]

>What if I donated?

Then you would have been a supporting member, and had the opportunity to vote on this decision.

[CaptainFever]

What if I was an active member, and voted no?

[1shooner]

I don't understand the complaint. This is the most participatory governance model of any of your options for this service category. If that's not enough for you, you really should just host your own.

[Blazara]

Then it's moved in a direction you don't like and you can withdraw? What happens when someone you don't like, that you donated money to, changes stance?

[Blazara]

There is no such thing as a neutral service.

[insane_dreamer]

then pay for GitHub; Codeberg is free, for FOSS. You're not their target user.

[KptMarchewa]

Yet they bend under fascist requests like current US administration.

[inigyou]

Codeberg? Did they? I know large corporations do it because they fear commercial retaliation, but Codeberg is a registered German charity by German citizens living in Germany and has absolutely no reason to give a flying fuck what the US president thinks. Which is incredibly based.

[mlrtime]

The problem is they can change their mind at a whim and all of a sudden you are on the other side of what they care about.

Not worth the risk, I'd say don't use them.

[ModernMech]

Can't every company do that at any time though? How is being on the other side of an ethical line different or more risky from being on the other side of a spreadsheet-driven line. One day you're in a green cell and it's all good, the next you're in a red cell and on the other side of what they care about (just green cells).

[Blazara]

You're describing literally every organisation you could contribute to.

[Forgeties79]

And go where instead? GitHub?

[Oxodao]

host your own. Codeberg is literally based on Forgejo you can setup on your own

[jacooper]

Yes at least they don't do BS like this.

[jacooper]

The decision to stop hosting such projects on codeberg will change nothing, it will just make it clear that its not a serious competitor.

Its like how the EU kneecaps everything related to energy because of the climate while literally the best case scenarios for the EU lawa is to be 0.1 colder, because the EU isn't the bigger emitter. It just doesn't matter.

[AnthonyMouse]

The biggest problems with energy policy in the EU haven't been about climate. If they were they wouldn't have been shutting down nuclear to burn Russian gas, nor would they have been suffering the high prices when that Russian gas got less available.

Moreover, the EU is a large market. If they e.g. switch to electric cars, it's not just them switching to electric cars, it's all the carmakers who want to continue selling into that market, who in turn design electric rather than ICE cars that they sell everywhere and increase the economies of scale for battery production which makes them more economical everywhere.