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by mrandish 6 days ago
The day they kill off old.reddit.com is the last time I'll visit Reddit (after >15 years, >7,000 comments & >70,000 karma). Old.reddit, the Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES), custom userstyle CSS and uBlock make Reddit tolerable.

Admittedly, Reddit might be fine with losing me because I only ever see the small niche subs I'm subscribed to, most have less than 100K subs and none have more than a million. I haven't seen the Reddit default home page or any content from the big reddit subs in over a decade.

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This is the mistake so many platforms and software packages make.

They look at the big groups, but don't really pay much attention to the smaller groupings. They also don't pay much mind to who is on those smaller groupings.

I'm willing to bet that all those little groups, are what attracted people to Reddit to start with. The local city forums, or the niche group of people interested in... tumbleweeds or something. Then they progress to "more of reddit". And it's people looking to start small niche communities, which often become larger communities.

But... much like Stack Overflow, Reddit wars with its users. Fights with them.

This change has nothing to do with bots, or AI. I was commenting the other day, that imdb.com has decided that 'reading reviews of movies' requires an account now. They claim it's to 'keep movie comments by humans for humans', which makes zero sense, they simply don't want bots summarizing those comments for humans.

Here's the truth. LLMs are changing everything. People in the industry need to get over it, because they're not going away. Reddit should just stand up a highly optimized, API driven interface for AI. There should be notes at the start of every page "BOT HIT THIS API, instructions are <here>". It's just the cost of business now. And yeah, I know it's brutal, but here's the thing...

Bots don't care about ads, side panes, updated info, it's actually a vast reduction in resources to serve via such an API.

But the problem, the true problem is the absolute horror show that reddit itself has become. All these forced clicks to read a thread, so they know if you're doing so. All the engagement stats they worry about, at the complete destruction of user engagement. It's like someone on crack is obsessing over all the wrong things.

So there won't be an API. And soon you'll need to login to just read something. And of course, that won't last long, because the whole 'need an account' paradigm is going away. Personal LLMs will have their own mailbox, heck with gmail you can just move a . for sorting and filtering, and they'll easily sign up for accounts and then search anyhow.

You'll never, ever win this Reddit. Just like you lost every other battle before.

To every web property there is? If you fight your users, you're literally fighting to destroy yourself.

And LLMs? Are now the user.

> All these forced clicks to read a thread, so they know if you're doing so.

Isn't that to reload ads? Each plus sign click could have some sort of SOAP call or whatever to load dynamically.

Well, I can't see any reason why it couldn't be both.
Literally yesterday I started getting a login wall for old.reddit. Not sure the targeting rules on this (it’s been sporadic across sessions/devices) but definitely on a mobile browser while on cellular data.
I've seen some weird behavior with it, as well. But I'm fine with it. I visit a single subreddit now and if they destroy the UX I'll only be happier for leaving.
They blocked old.reddit.com unless you are logged in on Monday. I don't have an account on there anymore so that effectively blocks me from the entire platform. Oh well.
I was using old.reddit.com on my pocket supercomputer (not logged in) on Tuesday.
I am using it right now and it still works for me. I guess it's a rollout. Someone mentioned cookies, maybe it will stop working when they expire, I am not willing to clean them to find out.
Try clearing your cookies.
Same, old makes Reddit useable.
Ditto