[InsideOutSanta]

Leaning SQL is arguably less dev work over the long run than learning an ORM and then learning how it works so you can fix performance issues.

[frollogaston]

Yep, there have been extended periods of time where my entire job title might as well have been "ORM remover" because they backed themselves into a corner

[ozim]

Do you have any meaningful experience as a software developer?

That’s a silly take. I somehow learned over the long run: SQL different flavors, couple of ORMs, multiple programming languages and multiple frameworks. Not counting different troubleshooting different operating systems and different applications I had to work with.

[frollogaston]

We all learn whatever we need to learn to deal with the situation. I've had to learn more distinct ORMs than SQL flavors, even though you also need to know the SQL when you use an ORM. Doesn't mean I wanted to.

However, each time a teammate wanted to use an ORM, I didn't call it silly or question their credentials.