[agalush]

Lightning payments are not stored onchain and have already been proved more private than monero payments

[akimbostrawman]

considering actual criminals do not use lightning but monero it should be obvious that is not the case.

[Ferret7446]

That's more the fact that lightning is a bit of a pain to use. It has a chicken and egg network growth problem, which is doubled on top of the chicken and egg problem of its host crypto

[akimbostrawman]

That does not make any sense. btc even lightning still has about 100 times the user and ecosystem. Nobody uses it because it obviously it is not secure.