[watwut]

> We should call data centers what they actually are: surveillance centers designed to put us all in a digital prison by 2030

I mean, isnt that what Karp, Thiel are openly saying and one of the things Antropic doom trolls about?

[RajT88]

Yeah, but the thing is - those guys aren't using the majority of data center capacity out there.

The Anti-DC crowd doesn't appreciate that the surveillance state is coming with our without all these DC's being built. That is going to get hosted some where, some way. The fix is regulatory and political.

[watwut]

They cant make regulations. They have only limited political power, Karp and Thiel certainly have more.

So, what you say amounts to "it is true, but do nothing at all". What they do is "do the thing we can do".

You, CEOs and this crowd all agree. It ia just that some think it is a good thing (CEOs), anything except impossible is pointless (you).

[RajT88]

You're putting words in my mouth. Don't.

The government has the kind of power needed to rein in all of these privacy issues by regulating big tech. It will be difficult, but more difficult things have been achieved in our lifetime. Join the EFF. Contact your congress people.

What I'm actually saying is the anti-DC people are trying to solve a societal level problem only peripherally related to the thing they are trying to ban at a local level. That seems a lot harder than getting congress to care about privacy issues.

[watwut]

Isnt comgress partizan locked and powerless? All power is in president.

[RajT88]

Even so! That problem is more solvable than expecting to fight the surveillance state by shutting down data center buildouts.

It is worth noting that the president is deathly afraid of the problem of him having all the power getting solved this midterm.