[Recurecur]

They’re a threat to those fearing deportation or arrest for criminal activity. If you’re not in those categories, you have exactly nothing to worry about.

I’m a lot more worried about the giant NSA data centers like the one in Utah, funded under prior administrations. Those are definitely warehousing wide-ranging data about all Americans (and others), harvested right off the Internet backbone…

[tekla]

Oh yes, we definitely don't have news or straight up video of people who are regular citizens getting killed for no reason by ICE or even non-citizens getting effectively executed without trial.

[cregy]

Yeah don't try to run over fed officers. Fafo.

[Recurecur]

> we definitely don't have news or straight up video of people who are regular citizens getting killed for no reason by ICE or even non-citizens getting effectively executed without trial.

You may have made-up “news” from the usual suspects, but you don’t have video. The videos of Good, Pretti, and the alien recently shot for using his vehicle as a weapon sure don’t show innocent victims dying at the hands of ICE. Any other law enforcement agency involved in the same incidents would have acted much the same.

In every case, the deceased put themselves in situations that lead to their deaths.

In two cases (Good and the alien), they attempted to use their vehicles as weapons.

In Pretti’s case he brought a pistol to a protest (illegal in his location), inserted himself into a detainment attempt, and struggled with officers. He may not have fired the shot that startled the officers surrounding him, causing them to fire (they all knew he was carrying), but he would sure be alive today if he hadn’t done the other things.

They say stupidity should be painful. In these cases, it was fatal.

[BugsJustFindMe]

I'm going to start with a link to the Pretti video analysis. If you don't trust the Times, feel free to ignore their assessments of motives and you can just look at the analysis of what events happened and when which are factual details: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010668660/new-video-a...

> In Pretti’s case he brought a pistol to a protest (illegal in his location)

I think you should know that the claim that it was illegal for him to carry that pistol is false and is a lie being told to you to deceive you into letting them sweep his death under the rug. Minnesota's concealed carry law (Pretti had a permit) does not restrict carrying in public or at protests. You can easily look that up if you care to. They don't think you will.

> inserted himself into a detainment attempt

This is also clearly false from all of the videos. There was no detainment attempt being made at that time. What is shown in all the videos is that an agent shoved a woman backward hard (to the ground) trying to get her to leave, not that they were trying to detain her. The woman was not part of any detainment attempt at that time. At that point she was merely a common victim of assault.

> and struggled with officers

Is that before or after he was being beaten while his hands were pinned down?

> He may not have fired the shot that startled the officers surrounding him, causing them to fire

The shot you're talking about was fired by one of those same border agents. It wasn't a magic bullet that came out of nowhere.

> They say stupidity should be painful

It is indeed true that some people enjoy pretending that cruelty is wisdom, but it isn't a good way to live.

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>In Pretti’s case he brought a pistol to a protest (illegal in his location)

He also crossed state lines with the pistol!

[JohnFen]

> If you’re not in those categories, you have exactly nothing to worry about.

From what I've seen, this just isn't true. Anyone who isn't visibly licking their boots is at risk.

[cregy]

Maybe stay away from the Reddit bullshit koolaid.