[KaiserPro]

I just looked it up, its the ncmec.org annual report, the one I am referencing is from 2024, not 2021. I mis remembered

Apple reported 250 items

Instagram 3.1million whatsapp 1.1 million facebook 8.8million tiktok 1.3 million snapchat 1.1million

Look I hate meta, more than you would know. But apple have very little excuse here. Even Anthropic reported more CSAM than them. I get your point about group vs 1:1, but frankly that holds only a tiny amount of water. Even if you did want to report it, you can't, not through apple at least. And if you did report it to the police, there is a high chance you'll loose your phone for use as evidence.

[john_strinlai]

>Apple reported 250 items

Instagram 3.1million whatsapp 1.1 million facebook 8.8million tiktok 1.3 million snapchat 1.1million

those numbers seem absolutely in line with what i would expect when comparing the largest social media platforms on the planet and a company that does 0 social media and extremely limited group sharing.

it seems very strange to me to put any blame apple here when its just a statistics game. billions of image posts = millions of reports. simple as.

and anyways, if i received CSAM from one of my phone contacts im going directly to the local police, skipping the apple -> ncmec -> state -> local pipeline. i think most people would be in the same boat.

a report button is useful when you don't know the identity of the perpetrator. but when you do know them, you should be going to actual law enforcement, not hoping your report eventually gets routed to the right agency.

[KaiserPro]

Sorry but this is denial. I know I'm not going to change your mind, however:

> it seems very strange to me to put any blame apple here when its just a statistics game. billions of image posts = millions of reports. simple as.

Apple's platform hosts billions of messages and photos. It is the Paedophile’s choice for distributing images and videos. The problem for us is Apple's halfarsedness in tackling this leads to clientside scanning or backdoors in encryption. They are not doing anything at all to stop this, and compared to whatsapp of all fucking apps, they are doing nothing.

[john_strinlai]

>I know I'm not going to change your mind

you might if you could back up statements like "apple is the pedos choice for distributing images and videos" with any sort of data.

but you wont be able to, because it's not true.

and, again, apple is 1:1 transmission. you know who is distributing the CSAM in that case. dont be lazy, go to the actual police.

instagram, facebook, whatsapp is 1:many transmission with strangers. a report button makes a lot of sense there.