[klabb3]

This reminds me of this argument with libertarians/ancaps:

A: rich people pay less % in taxes than wage workers, we should close the loopholes

B: but taxes are immoral to begin with

A: ok, but can we do something now about the unequal enforcement? Unrealized gains, tax havens, trusts, fake charities, etc?

B: well a society based on property rights… ackhully you should read this book by Mises/Rothbard/Rand

[economistbob]

Never really understood how libertarians expect to have someone making guns for their fiefdoms when there is no one to enforce property rights for said gun elements and manufactories.

[oblio]

Libertarianism is not a philosophy. It's selfishness taken to extremes and trying to find ways to justify it at a societal level. The only reason we're the top species is because we're ultra social and have culture, which is inherently a social trait (don't eat those red berries, they're poisonous). Libertarianism want all the benefits of working together with no actual thought into how that working together happens in real life, including punishment for bad behavior.

[Jensson]

Yeah its wrong in very very similar ways to communism.

[economistbob]

What very very similar ways would that be?

[satvikpendem]

I guess they presume it requires on the good will of everyone to live peacefully without violating (non-existent) property laws over, say, robbing you in your sleep.

[capr]

It doesn't require that at all, on the contrary. Why don't you educate yourself on these basic assumptions?

[oblio]

Surprise: the comment above was downvoted in the bastion of libertarianism :-)

https://youtu.be/lh2__MN-FTU?si=LXIaljh__s8fD75l&t=1568

About 3 minutes of video worth watching.