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by nl 10 days ago
> Go turn on min_p once it's available post July 27th and most of the problems you describe will go away.

This seems both arrogantly dismissive ("you are holding it wrong") and incorrect.

Either the OP is using Kimi K3 on Moonshot where is is presumable set correctly (K3 isn't available elsewhere yet), or they are using Kimi K2.x and there has been plenty of time to experiment with this.
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scotty79 10 days ago
> or they are using Kimi K2.x

That would be terrible because Kimi 2.x is in a different world than Kimi 3

Having opinions on current Kimi model based on 2.x would be like dismissing gpt-5.6-sol because of experiences with gpt4o

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Der_Einzige 10 days ago
I've earned my right to be arrogantly dismissive since almost the entire field (including the Kimi and qwen team) doesn't know good sampling settings. This is because if you are truly "bitter lesson pilled" you don't think sampling is needed at all.

You can either not believe me and be wrong, or you can (after July 27th) turn on min_p or a better sampler (i.e. top-n-sigma if you got it running via llamacpp) and have it work even better. Up to you.

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