[Aboutplants]

So China is now only 4 months behind US frontier models now when the rule of thumb was 6 months just a little while ago.

[softwaredoug]

To be fair the lag varies tremendously. When Deepseek first came out it was competitive with frontier lab models at the time.

[culi]

Well the same is true for Kimi. Before it, Fable was at the lead. Kimi is at the same level as Fable generally. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.