[coliveira]

Every property law is unnatural. Who says that I can't own the land across my backyard?... Yes, some stupid law that was passed to invalidate my natural right of conquering that land with a club in hand. The civilized society was created by imposing these laws, and copyright laws allowed the establishment of an industry for creative works.

[Dylan16807]

First off, 'Conquering' is not a natural right.

Second, personal property and real property are different categories. Real estate is somewhat artificial, but the ownership of personal items that you can carry around is a very natural right. It comes naturally from possession and autonomy, and does not need laws to exist.

[coliveira]

But somehow every other "artificial" right, like real estate, looks OK for you other than copyright... This is what I call bending the argument for particular gain.

[Dylan16807]

I was just countering the idea that all property is artificial. And when did I say I was fully behind real estate? Maybe it's not a good idea for someone to own ten thousand acres they aren't using in any way...

Also I am actively against software patents. Poor time to make assumptions.