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by bix6 7 days ago
Glyphosate has made forest fires worse.

Bleaching happens when the symbiosis breaks down due to elevated temps. That is due to suffering and causes suffering.

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>Glyphosate has made forest fires worse.

How? How does this work?

>Bleaching happens when the symbiosis breaks down due to elevated temps.

The first part is correct, the second is unknown. In 2016, 84% of corals bleached, the highest number. Did global warming peak in 2016?

I admit, saying "prosperity" was provocative. It's probably not a sign of prosperity. But what exactly it is a sign of, we have little idea.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/glyphosate-spraying-w...

It changes the composition of the forest to make it more flammable.

I don’t understand your coral comment. The coral expels the algae because the temp causes it to expel harmful toxins. There are other triggers besides heat.

But... basically any human activity changes forest composition.

Only 30% of the forests are primeval, and those 30% are not in Europe.

Forests are not "natural" for thousands of years.

>There are other triggers besides heat.

The amount of studies (or corals and algae) seems to be insufficient. I clearly remember the alarmist wave of the 2016, which turned out to be, well, not entirely unjustified, but clearly exaggerated.

Did you read the article?

Yes so maybe you should fund a coral study so that you can then know the truth that anyone who looks at this stuff knows.

I'm not a big fan of synthetic chemicals in the food supply but I can't help wondering how Glyphosate has made forest fires worse?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/glyphosate-spraying-w...

It changes the composition of the forests to make them more flammable.

That isn't science that is some activists opinion and the amount of forests actually sprayed with glyphosate is not the majority or even close yet we still have wild fires. The article linked is mostly nonsense with regards to wild fires, it may have some validity for the areas sprayed regarding biodiversity.
Alright boss, enjoy inhaling that glyphosate as the forests burn!

I guess ecologists aren’t scientists?

Wildland fire ecologist Bob Gray said leafy deciduous trees, like aspen, are more resilient to wildfires than softwood conifers like pine and spruce.

"Softwoods are highly resinous," he said.

"The foliage and bark is highly flammable. When you've got large contiguous areas of conifer forest, you can have large continuous forest fires."

I'm not a fan of Glyphosate but it's just not used enough in forests to be a primary factor in wildfires. Additionally, in the article you link, they are really reaching and again, this is just their activist opinion (chemicals bad! ok) and I don't see any actual studies on the topic.

Doesn't pass basic sniff test.

I never said it was a primary but if you look at Canada they use it for logging and it has very clearly changed forest composition which is what these “activists” are pointing to.

Multiple ecologists agree on the difference in flame resistance between tree types.

I am saying glyphosate impacts fires and you are saying it doesn’t. The evidence shows that it does impact even if small. That is my point. When the scientific study that no one is going to fund comes out in 10 years showing this, it’ll be too late.

This passes a basic sniff test if you use your brain to think through the chain of events.