[teraflop]

The short-term goal of a tool like this is to sell products. The more ambitious long-term goal is to shift cultural norms, blurring the lines between advertising and reality until the question you're asking is no longer consciously asked. At least, not by average people, and not at the point of purchase.

I find it easy to envision a world, maybe 50 years from now, in which the very concept of "truth in advertising" is viewed as a lost, idyllic fantasy. Something people are nostalgic for, but feel powerless to regain.

[dataflow]

> I find it easy to envision a world, maybe 50 years from now, in which the very concept of "truth in advertising" is viewed as a lost, idyllic fantasy.

From what I hear (fact-check, etc. needed) that's already the case right now with much more consequential transactions, like renting real estate in NYC. Square footages that are blatant lies, etc.

[supern0va]

>I find it easy to envision a world, maybe 50 years from now, in which the very concept of "truth in advertising" is viewed as a lost, idyllic fantasy. Something people are nostalgic for, but feel powerless to regain.

Alternatively, perhaps we'll see models fine-tuned or steer-able towards accuracy that customers can themselves use to get a more honest view on what the product would look like in person.

The funny thing about these tools is that they can go either direction, but it sure seems like there's the potential for it empower individuals and shift the balance. Clothing sales shifting online has given sellers the advantage/ease to deceive without much customers can do other than hope the reviews aren't manipulated (they are) even before AI. Maybe this can turn things around as people start to shop with personal agents.

[jcelerier]

> Alternatively, perhaps we'll see models fine-tuned or steer-able towards accuracy that customers can themselves use to get a more honest view on what the product would look like in person.

we live in a world where the norm is to use filters on pictures of your own face to lie about how you look, imagine thinking than people actually care about truthness

[supern0va]

>imagine thinking than people actually care about truthness

I think they actually care about "truthness" when it comes to how others will perceive them. You might filter your face for an online photo.

However, you're not going to want to look at yourself through your selfie camera with a filter that hides your imperfections when you're checking to see if something is stuck in your teeth on a date, don't you think?

There's nuance. People will fudge the truth to be perceived better, but don't want to be lied to when gathering data about how to be perceived better.

[jcelerier]

> However, you're not going to want to look at yourself through your selfie camera with a filter that hides your imperfections when you're checking to see if something is stuck in your teeth on a date, don't you think?

No, but you definitely use it in all the pictures you put on dating apps

[supern0va]

Sure, but just because I may want to filter the photos I post, doesn't mean I want my mirror to show me a distorted view of reality. Isn't this use case more like the mirror, and less like the dating app?

[derefr]

That's a fun thought. A gradual division between "institutional models" trained to have capabilities that solve for the needs of corporations, vs. "personal models" trained to have capabilities that solve for the needs of individuals.

I wonder what kind of capabilities those might be?

[ElProlactin]

> I find it easy to envision a world, maybe 50 years from now, in which the very concept of "truth in advertising" is viewed as a lost, idyllic fantasy.

There hasn't been "truth in advertising" for many, many years. The only thing that has changed recently is that you don't even have to hide most of the lies.

[palmotea]

> I find it easy to envision a world, maybe 50 years from now, in which the very concept of "truth in advertising" is viewed as a lost, idyllic fantasy. Something people are nostalgic for, but feel powerless to regain.

It's infuriating the amount of effort people will expend to claim that what was achieved in the past is literally impossible to do now. It's pervasive, especially from allegedly-smart people like software engineers.

[dleeftink]

Software has a dependency contract that is quite unique. We can't imagine the shelflife beyond the Bazaar or Cathedral. They seem ever lasting.

The myth of impossibility remains, because we can't imagine what it means to forever occupy those places, even when others rise past them.

[verisimi]

> I find it easy to envision a world, maybe 50 years from now, in which the very concept of "truth in advertising" is viewed as a lost, idyllic fantasy.

I find it easy now!