Ask HN: Will Anthropic or OpenAI start offering Chinese open source models?

[Risse]

Do you think there could exist a situation in the market where either Anthropic or OpenAI will offer chinese models for their clients?

[jqpabc123]

I think a more likely scenario is Anthropic and OpenAI clients start using Chinese open source models directly.

Why pay more for a middleman if you can go directly to the source?

The problem for Anthropic and OpenAI is to devise some political scheme to stop them.

[blitzar]

Will Ford or Tesla start offering German cars?

Do you think there could exist a situation in the market where either Ford or Tesla will offer BMWs or Mercedes to their clients?

[Gecko4072]

I think they have a compute shortage and this wouldn’t look very good to investors.

[jqpabc123]

I think they have a moat shortage and this shouldn't look very good to investors.

[paulcole]

So Anthropic makes a new model, Qwen or whoever learns how it works and makes their model nearly (but not quite) as good and then sells it back to Anthropic?

Like the soap-making scene in Fight Club.

[petesergeant]

Can you explain why you think they would?

[jnaina]

sure, upon the successful launch of porcine aviation

[eth0up]

I assure you, I can throw an Oscar Meyer just as far as a Hebrew National.

And let's remember, China conquered the US pork market many years ago ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithfield_Foods )

Porcine aviation may be closer than we think. We would be wise to not misunderestimate the Chinese.

[jnaina]

nope, never gonna happen. DC treats American AI supremacy as national security, IPO fortunes depend on the "America leads" story and the trump sycophants/toadies/roadies stand to gain millions from the IPO, and everyone thinks Chinese open weights are dumping meant to kill US labs, so Ant and OI will not want to wade into that.