[thot_experiment]

A. That's not a useful thing I care about nor should you (in the context of the current state of things) and B. I don't oppose AI as a concept. I oppose it as an emblem of the failure of our systems of governance to serve the common man. I oppose the implementation that people colloquially mean when they say AI, I have nothing against tensor blobs and I more or less wish intellectual property was abolished.

[dyauspitr]

A robot that does all of the chores in your house and outside your house is not useful? I’m going to stop reading right there.

[owebmaster]

Do you think we are anywhere near that? Do you have a vacuum cleaner robot?

[dyauspitr]

Yes we are. It’s all very recent and physical AI is exploding now. Here is literally a 3 hour autonomous stream of a robot folding and stacking clothes.

https://youtu.be/a2HZyURUE_o?is=2fCIZRpNxkCFP-83

[icepush]

Is this an actual, real example, or is the robot being operated by an off-screen human being ?

[dyauspitr]

Autonomous

[iwontberude]

Those folds are bad, I like my folds tighter than that

[dyauspitr]

Good for you, literally everyone else will take this fold over doing laundry themselves.

[democracy]

Touche, a more or less decent pool robot cleaner is around 3k and doesn't last more than a few years without changing every part but the case itself. Ok I take it - it operates in somewhat "hostile" environment but the point still stands

[burnt-resistor]

Back in my day (80's-90's), our Polaris vac-sweep was pretty simple reliable. Late stage capitalism / neoliberalism made it worse.

It didn't need an LLM or deep learning to do its job because it would randomly crawl around so long that it was on. I don't understand adding complexity, fragility, or cost to a solved problem, but I guess there are enough people who engage in competitive conspicuous consumption to signal status.

[shawn_w]

Roombas have been a thing for many years, long before the current llm craze.

[DangitBobby]

And they are completely useless.

[thot_experiment]

Not in the current context no, opportunity costs exist.

[handoflixue]

Well, given that stunning list of zero opportunity costs, I'm sure forced to reconsider my stance. Very persuasive!