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by i_idiot 8 days ago
I think people who commit suicide really believe they actually help their families or the world is better off without them. So, no, they are far from cruel. They are considerate.
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There are levels of depression (or other circumstances) at which people are actual drains on their family. While I would never recommend suicide, it is a rational personal choice for some of those with severe health problems that for whatever reason (financial, insurance, whatever) cannot be fixed.
>There are levels of depression (or other circumstances) at which people are actual drains on their family.

Committing suicide almost certainly guarantees further suicides within that close family. Children especially... years later. In certain social circles (teenage suicide), it heightens the risk of further teenage suicides, even among non-peers in some cases.

Unless the facehugger has just laid an egg in your gut, suicide is never rational and its consequences will play out over decades.

> Committing suicide almost certainly guarantees further suicides within that close family.

Not sure why this is downvoted.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-...

"The experience of losing a parent to suicide is a strong and independent risk factor for suicidal behaviour in offspring."

Because causation != correlation. This could just as easily be explained as "severe depression has a genetic factor".
We know it has a genetic factor.

We also know that's not the full story, and that people who lose a parent at a young age for any reason are more likely to struggle emotionally.

When teenage suicide clusters hit all the small towns within 50 miles of each other, you're positing that they were actually half-siblings and didn't know it, eh?

I'm glad people like you downvote me, it lets me know that I'm right.

> I'm glad people like you downvote me

HN doesn't let you downvote people who respond directly to you. Don't make assumptions like that.

How sad. :(