[throwatdem12311]

At least China is being consistent: they do not give a single f*ck about intellectual property or copyright…but they also give away all this distilled knowledge away for free.

I’m not an American so I don’t particularly like the idea of giving an American cartel of AI companies having so much power over this technology.

I don’t necessarily buy into the “China bad”, “they are communists” and all that BS either.

I will call a spade a spade and say that in this instance, what China is doing is a net good for the world, ideology be damned.

[mrdevlar]

This is proof that America has forgot it's own history.

America was founded by men who hated intellectual property, who stole and smuggled the plans and expertise for textile machinery out of the United Kingdom. A gross intellectual property violation. Why? Because they were being exploited by that system. The UK was using the American colonies for raw material and keeping the machinery in the UK for finished goods.

That's the rub, intellectual property is only valuable if you're winning, if you're the exploiter. China never gave a fuck because they, much like the American forefathers, saw a system of exploitation and went "no, thanks".

AI is the culmination of all human knowledge, the idea that anyone could own that is obscene. American AI companies that are trying to horde this are getting exactly what they deserve by being undercut by China on this.

[xiaodai]

Amen! Europe used to complain about the US stealing their intellectual property! The nuclear bomb would have been possible if not for Jewish scientists from Europe going to America! So until about 100 years ago, US was FAR behind Europe in technology and science.

[mmonaghan]

> the idea that anyone could own that is obscene

What if china ends up owning it? Do you think that's better or worse for the world? You're commenting your open opinions on a site run by a company that could not exist in china and cannot today. You can ask ant, xai, and chatgpt models questions and get answers that do their best to reflect the world. There's a set of questions you cannot expect trustworthy answers for from chinese models and you think they're stopping at those few questions?

get real bro

[mmonaghan]

They're dumping, dude. They subsidize important industries so they can give it way so cheaply that free markets can't compete, and when those companies fail, they swoop in and make a profit. uber did the same thing with taxis! This isn't a free resource - it costs billions to build out the infra and maintain the inference to provide this, and you think they're doing it out of the goodness of their hearts lol.

Come on bro at least admit you're happier giving china your data than the us lol. You're definitely not using european models I can tell.

[throwatdem12311]

I know they are dumping. I also believe this is one of those “right thing for the wrong reasons” kind of situation.

> at least admit you're happier giving china your data than the us

Yeah of course I am. How many schools has China bombed using AI to pick a target?

I’m Canadian. Being anti-American is in my DNA.