[kirtivr]

Deepseek has always been better than people gave it credit for.

You have to be careful with the inference provider though, Chinese providers are subject to laws that mandate data sharing with their government.

[janalsncm]

I would argue your logic is exactly backwards. For most Americans, sharing data with the Chinese government is irrelevant. The CCP cannot put you in jail.

However, American providers are going to be subject to secret national security letters, FISA court warrants, and regular court orders.

[joecot]

I stick with OpenCode Zen (only US providers) and Together.ai (hosting themselves). As interesting as new Chinese models are when they're first released, I wait til they are open source and on US providers.

[ItsBob]

Honestly, at this point I don't care about that. I don't use it for medical stuff or anything like that.

However, my real worry is that governments will make these models illegal in the west. They'll cite national security or some other bullshit.

I genuinely believe that will happen and soon!

People talk about a lack of moat with AI companies... that's their moat: Government intervention!

[wtfHN26]

> People talk about a lack of moat with AI companies... that's their moat: Government intervention!

This puts American Businesses and American Developers at a massive disadvantage.

The rest of the world can choose the best model by value for the task on hand.

Americans would be stuck using only 2-3 big frontier labs and paying a huge premium for using American models.

I don't see why hundreds of thousands of American Businesses will agree to that only for the benefit of a few tech companies.

[ItsBob]

It won't just be America though. I include others like Canada, UK (where I am), parts of EU etc.