[fidotron]

Yeah. People should absolutely be _trying_ the Chinese models, and experimenting with running things locally, but the noise in development is genuinely all Claude and Codex.

I put my foot in the mobile comparison the other day, and will again. If you were to go back and be a mobile dev in 2010 by all means specialize on one platform, but play with both as a professional interest to stay realistic. Here it's important people have access to US/Chinese/Other, open/closed, local/cloud and that this remains. Don't become a blind Claude guy or a open weights fanatic: that way lies disappointment.

[wordpad]

If startups includes openclaw users then I could see this being true.

Deepseek is barely behind frontier models while 10x cheaper and 99% discount for cache.

[icase]

people still use clawdbot?

[applicative]

Dunno I put to deep seek the question what I’d need in hardware to get full service k3 with lower latency in western pa (I was making like it was a business proposition.) It says several million dollars at minimum.

[JSR_FDED]

Unlike iOS/Android choice which has broad personal ecosystem implications, changing IP address to another LLM provider is effortless.

[pmontra]

Frankly I don't see much difference between Claude and DeepSeek except in the price. I use the Pro plan to work for a customer of mine and I topped up $2 on DeepSeek in late May for personal use. I worked on 3 projects and I still have $0.72 left. The Chinese companies will win on price, not openness.