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by nopromisessir 10 days ago
I do not speak Swedish, but I looked into this via machine translation.

My understanding is that the discussion can be found around this timestamp link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4goynP4mHYI&t=1h18m43s

According to the machine translation, Allard explicitly frames his argument around cultural assimilation, economic contribution, and behavior rather than biological ethnicity or skin color alone.

In public statements, he has routinely asserted that an individual's racial background or skin color is irrelevant to his politics.

Look, I'm not some Allard supporter. Don't know the guy, not even Swedish. Easily found some stuff on their platform which I quickly disagree with. I really doubt he's literally out there just calling for mass deportation of folks based on ethnicity. That is actual ethnonationism. Swedish people are from a nice free society and are accustomed to low crime and low problems. They've got this 2nd generation migrant issue that lots of Europe is dealing with.

The definition of ethnonationist is being used so flipantly throughout this thread.

Do your really think this guy is just standing up saying 'remigrate all dark skinned folks who got here recently'?

Even if that were his true political goals, it would be pretty self defeating to just charge onto the stage going full Nazi. He wouldn't have this much movement.

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Ok, however,

> I really doubt he's literally out there just calling for mass deportation of folks based on ethnicity. That is actual ethnonationism. Swedish people are from a nice free society

If you meant that they wouldn't support racist policies, a party with neo-nazi roots is currently the second largest one; calling for mass deportation based on ethnicity might not be that unpopular.

Actually, the Swedish Democrats themselves in 2003 adopted “the idea of "open Swedishness”, meaning that Swedish identity is not biologically exclusive and that assimilation is – theoretically – possible”.

And their ideas about immigration don't seem very different to those of Örebro, at a quick glance.

The SD are described in the intersting scholarly article at https://direct.mit.edu/euso/article/21/4/583/127125/Frames-o... as ethno-nationalists.

> it would be pretty self defeating to just charge onto the stage going full Nazi

Sadly no, in 2026 going full Nazi genocidal maniac mass murderer in waiting seems to be broadly acceptable for a politician, in the next few years we can expect the "in waiting" part will be dropped somewhere.