[edm0nd]

Yeah the Chinese totally have a really good history with being completely open and giving lol. The Chinese government totally has not been hacking into American and Western fortune 500 companies for the past few decades stealing R&D and tech to use for themselves. The Chinese also totally do not steal hundreds of billions of dollars of IP from America annually. Totally not something they would do!

[asdewqqwer]

It is hilarious to see people from arguable the most polarized political systems in the world believing the evil 1.5 billion people across the sea share one single mind, either a saint, or a devil.

[WillPostForFood]

It will be a great day for China and the world when the Chinese people are free from a totalitarian dictatorship. But until then we have to speak of the policy of the Chinese government as the policy of China, even if many, or most disagree with those policies.

[litbear2022]

Thanks for reminding me—it was China that robbed TikTok.

[justatdotin]

now do usa

[ClumsyPilot]

> we have to speak of the policy of the Chinese government as the policy of China

This does not even have meaning in English.

Policy of US government is not policy of US? When Trump decided to bomb Iran it was just a suggestion?

[d5lt5]

Nickname checks out.

[fhn]

when the CCP controls media, news, corporations, they basically control the minds of their people. How do you suppose the Wuhan virus got so out of control? You mean to tell me anybody in China can say bad words about the government and their leaders, bookstore owners/employees are not getting arrested for selling books, students are not getting arrested for sharing their opinions, women are not forced abortions and sterilizations for the one child policy?

[Gigachad]

In the US when you speak out against the government you get your media licenses revoked, sued in to a lifetime of debt, and the president sends a goon squad to your area to kill some random people on the street.

[mlazos]

Yeah but we still don’t have execution vans! I’m not even being sarcastic. China is unequivocally worse even with our recent slide into towards totalitarianism.

[kelnos]

Did the GP actually say that? I think you're putting words into their mouth.

They specifically referenced the actions of the Chinese government, as well as mentions of IP theft. I don't think that covers 1.5 billion people. More like a few thousand or tens of thousands?

[girvo]

But that’s not what they said?

[unethical_ban]

It's hilarious seeing you hear a complaint about the CCP and Chinese tech bros and think it's applied to every citizen.

[pegasus]

I don't see how stealing IP is inconsistent with a sympathy for openness. If anything, it's the opposite. "Information wants to be free" and all that. They were just liberating those secrets ;)

[freehorse]

Industrial espionage is neither a chinese invention nor (specifically) chinese practice. American companies do it to each other even.

[mullingitover]

The U.S. was openly a pirate nation for most of the 1800s.

Like with the ICC, the US respects or doesn’t respect international law strictly when it’s beneficial to the state’s interests. China really can’t be held to a different standard. This activity is grade school level geopolitics: the global system of government is anarchy.

[gf000]

Yeah, I love how people assume large powers have to do something. They are at most expected to do certain reasonable stuff (most of the time, a war is not beneficial to anyone so they try not to escalate that far), but there is not really global "law enforcement".

[applicative]

Agents of American companies who don't mind 15 years in the federal pen do it to American companies. So it must be right.

[Gigachad]

Thank god US AI companies generated all of the training data themselves and certainly didn’t just steal it all.

[tehjoker]

Whether or not this is really true or just US propaganda, the majority of technology transfer has occurred through the open process of requiring US companies to form partnerships and disclose know-how to access the chinese market. This stuff about espionage is really sour grapes from losers.

[gf000]

How can you steal something that won't materially be less from that? IP laws are cancer, and are definitely not in humanity's interest.

[chromadon]

Why do you think competing companies poach engineers from each other?