[mattmanser]

Comments like this boggle my mind.

The model which everyone else raves about and is wildly successful with legions of programmers virtually demanding access while abandoning ChatGPT and Copilot in droves, is rather dumb?

Have you considered that it's more likely that you're doing something wrong?

[ivewonyoung]

> is wildly successful with legions of programmers virtually demanding access while abandoning ChatGPT and Copilot in droves

Do you have a source for that? Codex went from 5 million users to 9 million users in the past few weeks since GPT 5.6 released. It was so popular that Claude was forced to extend Fable access by a week and then permanently for some plans.

[piguin]

My own experience is that the vast majority of programmers have experience with one model and maybe some short usage of earlier models from a competing choice but want to be using the model with the highest popularity and reputation. I've worked with people who actually had to test multiple choices for their team who didn't understand why they were pressured to select Claude for programmer morale.

[AussieWog93]

I went from cycling between models all the time in Cursor (some would randomly be better at certain tasks than others) to just going pure Opus 4.5 when that came out - it was so far ahead of anything else at the time.

Interestingly with Fable vs GPT-5.6 I think they've lost their lead a bit. I'm finding Fable can't do certain work that 5.6 Sol Ultra can - especially when it comes to webpage design.

Grok 4.5 was fast but made mistakes that GPT/Fable just don't.

I'm curious to try Kimi.

[WarmWash]

When iOS users are given an Android phone, they complain about how awful of an OS it is.

In reality, they just aren't used to it.

[dgfl]

I realized how awful of an OS modern android is when I bought an iPad. I later fully switched to iOS and never looked back.

Point is, sometimes people just have different experiences from you.

[Levitz]

What exactly is there to get used to? Do people really use each model very differently? There's a learning curve as in everything, but there is nothing that comes to mind for me when I use codex as opposed to claude

[gigatexal]

Exactly what I’m thinking, too.