[2Gkashmiri]

Can you tell me more about deepseek?

I paid $2 for deepseek api, put the key in void editor and made a crypto tool in html.

It turned out to be around 67kb. I used sample files in CSV that were a few hundred lines.

It spent around $1.8 in the hour or two or light coding and follow up bugs.

Is it really really this much?

I can't imagine spending a month using it for a day job, it would cost more than the salary so what gives?

I understand the local ai and all that but do cloud providers cost this much?

Earlier I thought "billion tokens" but now not sure

[k__]

My 2 weeks with DeepSeek V4:

Pro is ~50% more expensive than Flash.

Both need babysitting.

Plan, split in small tasks, give it docs, types, tests, linter, best practice examples, etc.

Always start a new session when starting a task.

Do regular manual sanity checks, and tell it to find issues in the codebase.

I pay like $1,50 per day for Pro.

[p1necone]

I use GLM-5.2 as an orchestrator model which delegates to Deepseek subagents (v4 flash or pro depending on complexity) and it works pretty well for a quite complex compiler codebase when I do deep enough up front planning for features/fixes.

If you believe the benchmarks Deepseek v4 is pretty shitty at long running work in large codebases, but really really good at self contained algorithmic/math reasoning - which is basically ideal for a compiler for a language with a relatively complex type system. And with its cache pricing it's very cheap.

GLM-5.2 is too expensive at api pricing for my taste though even when it's not producing the bulk of the output tokens - I pay for the mid-tier subscription and switch the orchestrator over to other models via open router when I run out - Minimax M3 feels okay but definitely a step down from GLM-5.2.

[h2aichat]

I had a similar experience

[5701652400]

very simlar experience.

I would also add that I run it this way ~12hour a day non-stop. 300M / tokens per day (99.7% cache hit).

[aduwah]

A local AI is not about cost. In fact you will likely pay more for it than with most providers. Just look up the advantages of having access to a technology like this that can be self hosted

[5701652400]

so Deepseek 4 Pro cannot go on own sessions for too long.

I delegate small-medium tasks: refactors, summaries, research, writing tests + have very good codebase already + extensive history / architecture / docs / linters. so it picks up and does decent small-medium scope work. it is fast, accurate, cheap. does exactly what I want directly and does not waste time nor tokens.

definitely not "implement me complex greenfield project".