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by antiloper 10 days ago
Does anyone have the privacy policy of their token plan available? Want to check if they retain/train on inputs/outputs.
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Lol, lmao even.

Of course they train on literally everything they get their hands on, like everyone else. If you need privacy, that's what local models are for.

It's a flippant answer to a real question. Anthropic, OpenAI, and even Grok have "Don't train on my data" knobs.

Whether you trust them is different, but there ARE knobs on other hosted AI companies.

> Anthropic, OpenAI, and even Grok have "Don't train on my data" knobs.

Would you trust this?

Anthropic paid 1.5 billion for illegally training on stuff and that's even without a judge forcing them to do this. This seems to be their modus operandi

Those knobs don't do anything, don't be silly. It's just optics.
If this is true then why did Anthropic bother to update their privacy policy when they first launched Fable?
I don't have the energy to cynically squint at everything in my life. If a company says "We won't track you" I'll believe it until proven otherwise.

When these companies prove dishonest, I'll adopt skepticism.

Do you have proof of that?
Do you have proof it's not? There are no laws they have to follow in regards to it, and it's practically impossible for them to go against their core self interest. More data is literally a direct component to better models and more revenue. If someone proves it's fake worst they get is a month of bad PR and then people will move on, as they always do.
> If someone proves it's fake worst they get is a month of bad PR and then people will move on.

You can say they stole from everyone to train their models in the first place and that's valid, but this isn't that. You are saying they are actively ex-filtrating data from any company using their services and lying about it.

Google/Apple/Microsoft or all of the dozen trillion dollar companies in the US would absolutely crush them in litigation. Neither OpenAI or Anthropic would be able to survive it. It's just not worth the risk.