[firesteelrain]

> The objection isn’t to the language. It’s to Claude using a version of Bun that is not available to us.

I was responding to your GP comment. For weeks, it was uproar over the blanket AI move to Rust and now it’s this reason. That’s why I said the goalposts are being moved.

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That seems illogical to me. We’re only allowed to have one objection to a project and once that’s used up we can’t air another? FWIW I don’t think people have forgotten the original objection either!

[firesteelrain]

You can; it feels contrived and very social justice warrior/anti Anthropic (which on HN is in of itself almost a meme now). The main reason was because of the blanket AI move which I could understand.

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I think your perception of events is pretty heavily affected by personal bias here. Objecting to a hasty AI rewrite of an entire runtime and objecting to violating the spirit of FOSS is “very social justice warrior”?

What?

[firesteelrain]

Please re read your original comment. AI rewrite is one thing and objecting to FOSS/non FOSS is a new argument, anti-Anthropic etc is moving the goal posts. The main argument was the blanket rewrite to Rust using Claude.

Now, /you/ are trying to move the goalposts into an entirely different argument.

Very likely it’s just anti Anthropic altogether.

Like I said, a meme.

Anthropic hasn’t done anything wrong but if they move a single inch then people will complain. Perhaps it is just a preview version?

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Airing two entirely separate objections to a project is not “moving the goalposts”. The original objection still stands! You’re using a phrase you’ve heard in an inappropriate context.

I’m sorry but this is a nonsensical debate.

> Now, /you/ are trying to move the goalposts into an entirely different argument.

You said something and I responded to it. That’s invalid too now? There can only ever be one single objection in a conversation? I’m not permitted to react to the things said? Like I said, nonsense.

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People are now saying poor communication because the Bun creator was not able to see the future and didn’t immediately flag his draft rewrite as the next big thing when he started working on it.

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> For weeks, it was uproar over the blanket AI move to Rust and now it’s this reason. That’s why I said the goalposts are being moved.

I'm just one person though, and have no problem with a move to language X, using tool Y, who cares?

For "goalpost are being moved" to be valid here, you have to be able to point to someone saying one thing at one point, then same person putting a different target later. You're folding a huge group of people into one person, when that's not really accurate to do.

[firesteelrain]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48843352

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48837877

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Your point being? None of my comments in either of those state that I'm upset about it moving from Zig to Rust?

[firesteelrain]

I wasn’t referring to you and rather the general sentiment. Hence, goal posts have been moved again comment.

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My overall larger point (maybe poorly stated) was that unless you're engaged specifically in a 1-on-1 conversation with someone, accusing a whole community of "moving the goalpost" makes no sense, there is a whole host of arguments and points being made in different directions all the time, by different individuals.

[firesteelrain]

I see what you are saying. My comment is rooted in the fact that different people are foregrounding different objections to Anthropic/Bun, and taken together it looks like whatever launches, someone will find a reason to be upset