[anovikov]

Well, everything in non-democratic countries, except (part of) organised crime, exist with the approval and in service of the state. So formal ownership doesn't matter there (this is why Chinese stock market is a joke).

I don't think anyone assumed it to be any different. This is the case in every non-democratic country and this is exactly why capitalism is inseparable with democracy (because there won't be capital when there is no system that ensures that it won't be arbitrarily taken from you, with you thrown into "re-education" camp). Similarly, socialism is inseparable with authoritarianism because give people real voting rights and they will vote socialism out. Hybrid regimes that have been attempted, quickly flipped onto one or the other side - democratic capitalism, or authoritarian socialism - because they are unsustainable and can only be maintained for some time with careful management.

[jqpabc123]

because they are unsustainable and can only be maintained for some time with careful management.

Is this a fact --- or a hope?

China is a different culture and is carving it's own path --- one that doesn't exactly match any that came before.

The West expected that it would change China. What is actually happening is China is changing the West.

For example, trade with the USA is now controlled by one person. It's hard to get much more authoritarian and anti-capitalistic than this.

[anovikov]

I only meant to say that China will simply revert to government ownership of virtually everything, eventually, when they will no longer need to maintain the mask of capitalism. Government already owns 60% of productive capital there.

I didn't mean to say that China is set for failure as a nation. Merely that it will eventually become again fully "socialist"/"communist" rather than remain a hybrid system it currently is.

[jqpabc123]

But will the USA eventually become again fully "democratic"/"capitalist" rather than remain a hybrid (aka fascist) system it currently is?

I think judgments and predictions are far from certain in both cases and are mainly rooted in bias and wishful thinking.

[anovikov]

Either this, or will instead become a China-like full-on fascist. Because capitalism stops working if there are no guarantees of private property (no point to own stock if company can be nationalised, diluted, or simply gifted to a crony at whim), and every dictatorship eventually slides to that territory. US is no exception. It will not remain a hybrid for a long time - it will go either way.