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by ranger_danger 13 days ago
What happens when TURN is inevitably needed? Many people are behind something like CG or symmetrical NAT with no direct way to talk to each other.

There are no reliable, fast AND free TURN servers (IMO), and even semi-private relays can quickly become overwhelmed or too costly to operate.
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jarym 13 days ago
Bandwidth costs money not to mention if it was truly free it would probably be an abuse vector. Cloudflare offer 1000Gb free per month - https://www.cloudflare.com/products/turn-sfu/ and pricing beyond that isn't bad either.
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SamOkampo 13 days ago
thats one of the main operational challenges. AirDows attempts a direct connection first and only uses TURN when NAT conditions require it. I'm already measuring relay usage and evaluating sustainable TURN providers and limits while keeping the beta free...
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