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by sssilver 13 days ago
Isn't literally every photograph taken with a modern iPhone technically an "AI-generated / AI-edited image"?
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Given that this would be the first ever law with any degree of ambiguity ever created, we should create some type of like... room... maybe call it a "court"... where people could "judge" whether a person fell on the allowable or disallowable end of the spectrum

It's a groundbreaking idea but it might work. And who knows, maybe it's an innovation we could apply to other areas of law in case they also ever need to interact with any ambiguity (which hasn't happened yet, of course).

  > some type of like... room... maybe call it a "court"... where people could "judge" whether a person fell on the allowable or disallowable end 
it sounds a bit difficult to pull it off, but i'm all for it!
no, the photos you take with the lenses on your phone are not AI generated. They are generated from the sensors on your phone.

Have you seen some of these listings? We are talking about retaining walls invented where they can’t exist, work displayed that hasn’t occurred, etc. if you show up to a property and it’s materially different than the picture that got you there, that should be illegal.

If you want to make an argument that “everything is AI now” go for it. But I’m happy to see existing false advertising laws evolve as technology evolves

iPhones use a variety of AI (though not LLM) techniques every time you take a photo. For example they use semantic segmentation where they recognize different aspects of a photo (faces, skies, skin tones, etc) and process them differently
They do a sort of automatic Lightroom edit playing with colors, shadows and masking. They do not invent things that do not exist.
Android phones sure. The iPhone as far as I have seen has stayed away from gimmicks and AI. "Computational photography" is a long shot away from AI generated images. Everything in the iphone photo actually existed much the same as the photo shows, it's just exposure and color being messed with.

If you use post editing tools like magic eraser and the new reframe / expand tools then that's a different story and shouldn't be allowed in real estate photography.

Yeah basically. They do not use generative AI or LLMs.

Unless you take into account their editing features that allow you to, for example, remove a human from an image

It's not as simple a question as you make it sound: https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-galaxy...
If you take a photo of your apartment does your iPhone automatically make it twice the size, add modern renovations, paint the walls and add all new furnishings?
Yep. Most phones are doing computational photography mining images creating things that never where quite there.
Does your iPhone edit the image such that it’s substantially deceptive regarding the quality of the apartment to a reasonable person?
How often would you say you prompt your camera to líe about you in a bid to rent yourself
Is that not analogous to putting up a facetuned image on a dating profile?
Yes clearly that is what is meant here.