[jascha_eng]

It used to be that DevOps was the movement of merging Ops leftwards so that Devs own the Operation of their software.

[interf4ce]

THANK you![1]

Calling anything ops "DevOps" is right up there with calling JSON APIs "REST."

I know it's silly to let it bother me, but man does it get under my skin.

1. https://imgur.com/gallery/thank-you-lNUh0uV

[JohnMakin]

it’s a meaningless term that can define dozens of roles

[saurik]

But the whole point was that it wasn't a separate role: it was a re-distribution of work so the developers were doing operations. Instead, a lot of people entirely missed the point and just renamed their ops people to devops.

[JohnMakin]

and devs almost universally end up not wanting to do that

[Yiin]

in the age of agents I found myself loving frontend again, loving devops again, loving email servers again, you name it, I suspect in most cases those roles will merge into one (excluding the ones needing extreme competency and trust).