[osti]

Absolutely do not pay for the kimi plans thinking they will be cheaper. If you sign up with a Chinese phone number, you can get the same plan for 200 yuan instead of 200 usd, it also only accepts Chinese payment methods iirc. So the plans are really made for Chinese userbase.

[SwellJoe]

That sounds complicated. I'll just use my month of Kimi and then cancel. I have too many AI subscriptions to use them all, anyway. I subscribed mostly to test it. I mean, if it turned out to be competitive, I would keep it, but if it doesn't turn out to really excel and anything and also take longer than Claude or OpenAI models, I'll stick with them.

[osti]

It is complicated, but paying for the cheaper usd plans really don't get you much usage.

[xyzsparetimexyz]

Wow! Does it accept a foreign alipay/wechat pay account?

[tommydee]

YMMV, but I'm a US citizen with a KYC'd Alipay account and I was able to subscribe for the Chinese price...

... but I borrowed a friend's +86 phone number, which you'll need to even see that price. or maybe a 回国 VPN will work.

[nonethewiser]

Those exist?

[dannyw]

I've had an Alipay account since 2006 and never been to China.

Of course they exist, Alipay is from Alibaba, think about who typically buys from OEMs/suppliers there...

[osti]

No idea lol, didn't even know those exist..

[segmondy]

how do we get chinese phone numbers?

[xyzsparetimexyz]

esim

[osti]

Nah that won't work. I don't know tbh, I just used someone else's number.

[segmondy]

how do I find someone to use their number when I'm not in china and don't know anyone in china?

[tommydee]

not gonna happen. China has strict real name verification for SIMs.