[k33n]

The word “victim” is honestly pretty funny in this context. Nothing really happened to anyone.

[gkbrk]

I wouldn't classify getting random malware as "nothing happening".

[frollogaston]

Because it spies on them and nags. But Windows itself already does that. LG could've done the same thing sans the mcafee popups and nobody would care, in fact Dell is probably doing that.

[ssl-3]

> But Windows itself already does that.

So once an person is victimized in this way, it becomes a free-for-all where future transgressions cease to matter?

[frollogaston]

Yep. Not free-for-all, but silently installed crap collecting metrics is well within their expectations.

[ssl-3]

So... When people expect to be harmed because they've been harmed before, then it's perfectly OK when they get harmed again.

Neato.

[grayhatter]

> Yep. Not free-for-all, but silently installed crap collecting metrics is well within their expectations.

I don't expect software engineers to build stuff like this. I expect humans to treat other humans with dignity and respect. In fact, it makes me extremely angry when I see people do it, or advocate that others should tolerate it.

[frollogaston]

I don't think they should tolerate it, but they do. 0 people are going to leave Windows because of this latest scandal, because the ones who care have already left. At some point I accepted that this doesn't matter to a lot of people, which is their right and choice, and if Linux wants to attract users, it has to do it by being easier to use besides just being more ethical.