[Rohansi]

> I’m able to watch a camera that has no internet access because it passed through my Apple TV, which serves as a home hub.

How exactly does this prevent the same kind of issue for Apple devices? Aren't you just trusting that Apple handles your data better than TP-Link? Not saying they don't but routing through another device doesn't really add security on its own.

[afavour]

> Aren't you just trusting that Apple handles your data better than TP-Link?

I am, yes. Ultimately you’re going to need to trust some hardware, somewhere. No matter what you’re doing you have to trust that your home router doesn’t have an externally accessible SSH port with no password set.

Personally I trust Apple more than I trust TP Link with this stuff.

[Rohansi]

> Personally I trust Apple more than I trust TP Link with this stuff.

What if a TP-Link camera supported HomeKit Secure Video? You access the camera through Apple but all of these cameras are still directly connected to the internet, meaning you still need to trust the camera manufacturer.

[drnick1]

> No matter what you’re doing you have to trust that your home router doesn’t have an externally accessible SSH port with no password set.

No, you don't have to trust. I build my own routers precisely because I don't.

[pessimizer]

Pretty sure that just means that we trust Linux/Openwrt and the chip vendors.

[drnick1]

Linux and OpenWrt have an incredibly good security record compared to what ships on typical consumer devices.

[astafrig]

Doesn’t it? I do trust the manufacturer of the thing that I keep within arms reach from the moment I get it, and which knows more about me than I do, to have better security than whatever the hell a TUYA is that controls the lights.