[johnnyanmac]

>The lack of precision in language here sucks.

It's a feature. Or at least, a perk. If they want to claim this new shiny rock is AI and people buy it, then of course it's in their best interest to keep the black box mysterious. Being subterfuge for muddying the discourse of critique is just a nice side bonus.

[HappMacDonald]

But it is only a perk for the scam artists who benefit from that.

Yes, it makes sense that the confusion aligns with their interests, and they are unavoidably a big part of the conversation. But it remains a problem for the non-overlapping group of people who actually value the social contract, and for us finding a solution which helps take one more step to defeat the scammers remains valuable.

[worik]

Yes. It is useful for the scam artists:

X, Open AI and Anthropic, to name three

[lazide]

Near as I can tell, like crypto, 90% of the ‘discussion’ has been taken over by scam artists, and any folks trying to have a non-scam discussion get yelled at by everyone else.