[rowanG077]

Ah yes, because if a person agrees with anything a chinese company does it must be because they love Xi. Get real.

Munching of the top student in a class is clearly prohibited. Distillation is not cheating, it's learning from your competitor. Akin to a company purchasing their competitor thingamajig to see if you can improve their own product.

[vonneumannstan]

If your entire competitive advantage is copying your rival's better product and not making any true innovation or improvement and only delivering a slightly worse product its little different than cheating, yes.

>Distillation is not cheating

Blatantly against ToS of any of the major labs hence their efforts to prevent it.

Not saying you are actually a Chinese astroturfer but this is essentially exactly what I would expect one to be saying.

[rowanG077]

These models are not copies, distillation is simply a part in the pipeline. suggesting that the Chinese models are full copies through distillation is simply wrong. Just because they are distilling does not mean they are not innovating. In fact there is pretty much a consensus in industry that in terms of model size/performance the chinese models are better. But of course we don't know the exact model sizes because OpenAI and Anthropic are not giving access to their models.

> Blatantly against ToS of any of the major labs hence their efforts to prevent it.

ToS are actively malicious and fortunately not worth the paper they are printed on. Violating a ToS is not illegal or "cheating".

> Not saying you are actually a Chinese astroturfer but this is essentially exactly what I would expect one to be saying.

The AI industry in china has been acting a lot more moral and forward looking than the, to be frank, mustache twirling evil US parties of Anthropic and OpenAI. Perhaps take that into account before randomly spewing accusations of astroturing.