[nobleach]

I particpated in a Clojure reading group for "Getting Clojure" back around 2017. Having the entire JVM ecosystem available, is absolutely a great benefit. I even fooled around with ClojureScript a bit. David Nolen is great at making the case for both.

[jlarocco]

On a related note, there's a cross-platform Common Lisp package, "Bike" https://github.com/Lovesan/bike, that lets you use .Net assemblies from Common Lisp.

I've used it a tiny bit at work (on Windows) and at home (on Linux), and ran into one issue with "out" parameters, but otherwise it works really well.

[nobleach]

That's just crazy! (in a good way) I've been in software since 1998 and it's like I've just uncovered a whole new world.

[vindarel]

What about this one? https://github.com/dotcl/dotcl

> Common Lisp implementation on .NET. Lisp source is compiled to CIL (Common Intermediate Language) and runs on the .NET JIT — so the same Lisp image runs on Windows, macOS, and Linux across x86-64 and ARM64 without per-platform porting work.

[jlarocco]

Thanks! I don't think I've seen that one.

[arikrahman]

Now there's Jank too, the first time a Lisp dialect has reached into native world since Clasp. The way it interops Clojure with the LLVM is unprecedented.

[Jtsummers]

> the first time a Lisp dialect has reached into native world since Clasp.

What's that supposed to mean? Many (probably most if we only consider the non-toy ones) lisp implementations are "native" (compiling to native machine code, not interpreted).

[erichocean]

You can directly call C++ as C++, not via a C ABI.

[Jtsummers]

> You can directly call C++ as C++, not via a C ABI.

That's a unique definition of "native". It suggests that C is not a native language, which is going to be a hard thing to convince others of.

[didibus]

Ya, I think that was a bit misspoken. They mostly meant direct C and C++ interop. It feels much less like a traditional FFI and more like using C and C++ libraries from C++ itself.

[erichocean]

I mean if you're going to be that pedantic, then Clojure is "native" since all Clojure functions "compile to machine code" via the JVM's JIT.

[yogthos]

I'm also working on Jolt which uses Chez Scheme as the compiler. https://jolt-lang.github.io

I've already got enough of JVM compatibility to run Ring apps, and have some fun libraries like a Reagent style library on top of GTK https://yogthos.net/posts/2026-07-02-jolt.html

[xedrac]

Don't forget Jolt! It's clojure built on top of Chez Scheme, which is super cool.